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	<description>By: Bobby Laurie, Travel Expert</description>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://upupandagay.com/2009/10/27/crew-baggage-in-the-cabin-usatoday/#comment-264</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yes it only makes sense that shift workers would experience a higher rate of weight gain, the later you eat, the less your body burns because your system is on a lower drive so to speak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yes it only makes sense that shift workers would experience a higher rate of weight gain, the later you eat, the less your body burns because your system is on a lower drive so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: world cup 2010 betting odds</title>
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		<dc:creator>world cup 2010 betting odds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>EXACTLY what I&#039;ve been looking for! Thanks so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EXACTLY what I&#8217;ve been looking for! Thanks so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 19:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah, I agree! I&#039;ve had to change my uniform pieces inflight after a spill -- and not having my bags there would have been a mess!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah, I agree! I&#8217;ve had to change my uniform pieces inflight after a spill &#8212; and not having my bags there would have been a mess!</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 00:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find this thread, really interesting. I totally agree. I normally pack 3 bags, which consist of my roller bag, my lunch bag and my purse. I try to stow my bags out of the way, whether it be under the seat in front of the bulkhead where passengers can&#039;t place their bags or we try to space our bags up in the over head bins. I for once had to change my shirt in flight from a spill. If I had not had my roller bag inside the plane, I would&#039;ve had to wear wet clothes.

Also, many times our crew bags get sent somewhere else by mistake. Which would be an absolute nightmare.
Yes, I do understand that people pay a lot for flying, and it does pay our salaries, especially those in first class. But why should we be barred from bringing our own bags onto the plane???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this thread, really interesting. I totally agree. I normally pack 3 bags, which consist of my roller bag, my lunch bag and my purse. I try to stow my bags out of the way, whether it be under the seat in front of the bulkhead where passengers can&#8217;t place their bags or we try to space our bags up in the over head bins. I for once had to change my shirt in flight from a spill. If I had not had my roller bag inside the plane, I would&#8217;ve had to wear wet clothes.</p>
<p>Also, many times our crew bags get sent somewhere else by mistake. Which would be an absolute nightmare.<br />
Yes, I do understand that people pay a lot for flying, and it does pay our salaries, especially those in first class. But why should we be barred from bringing our own bags onto the plane???</p>
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		<title>By: Deanna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preached!</description>
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		<title>By: Traytable</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traytable</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 07:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have lost count of the times I open the &#039;Crew Use Only&#039; locker to find some passenger has stuffed their tote bag on top of mine... crammed in so hard that I can&#039;t get to my in-flight items. The passenger then yells at me for touching their bag. I point to the placard and they say &#039;there was nowhere else to stow it&#039;. Locker two rows ahead is empty. people just think they should have their bags immediately above their heads!

If it&#039;s THAT important, do what I do when travelling as a passenger- PUT IT AT YOUR FEET!

Another one we get a lot is that people cram their bags into equipment lockers which are clearly labelled &#039;Emergency Equipment Only&#039; and then get mad when we have to move it. Um, last I checked your 20-ton bag is NOT emergency equipment. For example, one flight we had to get an oxygen bottle only to find while we were all busy some silly person had stuffed their backpack in, meaning it took extra time to get the medical equipment out.

Passengers, if the sign says NOT FOR PASSENGER USE, this does mean you!!!!

Carlitos, many airlines do not permit crew to check their luggage. Also, when we are doing 5 sectors in a day, with 40min turnarounds (including boarding 20min prior to departure) there is no time for luggage to be transferred.

You&#039;d no doubt be the first to dog on the crew for being late to the next aircraft. You can&#039;t have it both ways. Either they&#039;re on time with their luggage in the cabin, or late because they&#039;ve checked it. Pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have lost count of the times I open the &#8216;Crew Use Only&#8217; locker to find some passenger has stuffed their tote bag on top of mine&#8230; crammed in so hard that I can&#8217;t get to my in-flight items. The passenger then yells at me for touching their bag. I point to the placard and they say &#8216;there was nowhere else to stow it&#8217;. Locker two rows ahead is empty. people just think they should have their bags immediately above their heads!</p>
<p>If it&#8217;s THAT important, do what I do when travelling as a passenger- PUT IT AT YOUR FEET!</p>
<p>Another one we get a lot is that people cram their bags into equipment lockers which are clearly labelled &#8216;Emergency Equipment Only&#8217; and then get mad when we have to move it. Um, last I checked your 20-ton bag is NOT emergency equipment. For example, one flight we had to get an oxygen bottle only to find while we were all busy some silly person had stuffed their backpack in, meaning it took extra time to get the medical equipment out.</p>
<p>Passengers, if the sign says NOT FOR PASSENGER USE, this does mean you!!!!</p>
<p>Carlitos, many airlines do not permit crew to check their luggage. Also, when we are doing 5 sectors in a day, with 40min turnarounds (including boarding 20min prior to departure) there is no time for luggage to be transferred.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d no doubt be the first to dog on the crew for being late to the next aircraft. You can&#8217;t have it both ways. Either they&#8217;re on time with their luggage in the cabin, or late because they&#8217;ve checked it. Pick.</p>
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		<title>By: Work hard. Eat Right. &#171; Up Up &#38; A Gay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Work hard. Eat Right. &#171; Up Up &#38; A Gay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] research into proper packing of a crew cooler for a four day trip, even if some passengers like Carlitos, don&#8217;t want flight attendants to carry crew coolers or bags in the cabin overhead [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] research into proper packing of a crew cooler for a four day trip, even if some passengers like Carlitos, don&#8217;t want flight attendants to carry crew coolers or bags in the cabin overhead [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh man, I wish I had gotten in the convo with Carlitos! Obviously you are not a flight attendant... and from the sound of it not a frequent flier either. If you were, you would know how many planes out there don&#039;t have closet space for crew bags... and you might know that some airlines require flight attendants to have computers.

Thanks for trying to tell us all how much and what to pack in our bags. Next time, I will do the same to you when you board my flight.

This really did bring up a good topic. As usual, love the post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh man, I wish I had gotten in the convo with Carlitos! Obviously you are not a flight attendant&#8230; and from the sound of it not a frequent flier either. If you were, you would know how many planes out there don&#8217;t have closet space for crew bags&#8230; and you might know that some airlines require flight attendants to have computers.</p>
<p>Thanks for trying to tell us all how much and what to pack in our bags. Next time, I will do the same to you when you board my flight.</p>
<p>This really did bring up a good topic. As usual, love the post!</p>
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		<title>By: Aline Lima</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aline Lima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I could just scan the page of my manual where it says
 that my cabin bag MUST be stowed in the overhead bins as
the pax bags, then this guy would shut up. What about a
crew that had her bag sent to MEL instead of SYD?
PPL think that just because we&#039;re crew that we&#039;re not
susceptible to have our checked luggage lost or broken...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I could just scan the page of my manual where it says<br />
 that my cabin bag MUST be stowed in the overhead bins as<br />
the pax bags, then this guy would shut up. What about a<br />
crew that had her bag sent to MEL instead of SYD?<br />
PPL think that just because we&#8217;re crew that we&#8217;re not<br />
susceptible to have our checked luggage lost or broken&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Airline Examiner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Airline Examiner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks UUAG for bringing this issue to light - it&#039;s definitely a contentious one. Let me point out a few things as well:

1. On several (domestic) airlines, cabin crew carry food containers because crew meals have been eliminated (also not to mention the $15 club sandwich, but it&#039;s also my experience most layover hotels discount food for airline employees, was that price post-discount?), and there is often not time to grab an overpriced airport meal in between flights, especially during a delay.

2. While passengers only have to worry about bin space for one or two flights, crew members may have to worry about it for up to five, depending on routing and duration. Advantage: Crew.

3. Airlines are faced with a dilemma. Provide adequate &quot;non public&quot; closet space for cabin and flight crew to stow their luggage, or put in more passenger seats. Airlines have opted for the latter, leaving crew to answer the uncomfortable inquiries about their bags in the overhead bins. Should the required closts be installed, it would reduce revenue capacity per aircraft, and could increase fares.

4. Many airline union contracts tie legal rest to amount of time spent at place of lodging in addition to amount of time between block hours. Flight attendants who would have to wait to claim checked luggage could create inefficiencies in scheduling, raising costs, and subsequently, fares. I understand many international flight attendants check bags on a regular basis, but those layovers can often be several days, rather than just a few hours.

5. The &quot;I paid money, therefore I&#039;m entitled&quot; argument is so typically American. It&#039;s also false. It&#039;s the same excuse used by drunks (I can drink as much as I want in First Class, I paid for it). US domestic flight attendants are often caught in between the needs of the entitled passengers who paid oftentimes loss-making fares, and the needs of the airlines who almost seem to blame the employees need for things like overhead bin space and crew meals and decent hotels when the airline isn&#039;t profitable.

6. United dealt with this onboard Ted aircraft, where closets were removed and the inflight entertainment system took up the first few overhead bins, which are by the way, installed for passenger convenience. When it boils down to it, passengers are entitlted in most carriers&#039; contract of carriage to transportation from point A to B, with a defined amount of luggage. The COC does not define where the passenger is entitlted to stow their luggage, and it does not guarantee availability of space in the aircraft cabin. Fact is, aside from the seat you sit in, which you have paid for transportation in, the airline retains ownership of the rest of the aircraft, including overhead bins, and if they want to transport crew bags or camelias or crepe paper, it&#039;s their right to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks UUAG for bringing this issue to light &#8211; it&#8217;s definitely a contentious one. Let me point out a few things as well:</p>
<p>1. On several (domestic) airlines, cabin crew carry food containers because crew meals have been eliminated (also not to mention the $15 club sandwich, but it&#8217;s also my experience most layover hotels discount food for airline employees, was that price post-discount?), and there is often not time to grab an overpriced airport meal in between flights, especially during a delay.</p>
<p>2. While passengers only have to worry about bin space for one or two flights, crew members may have to worry about it for up to five, depending on routing and duration. Advantage: Crew.</p>
<p>3. Airlines are faced with a dilemma. Provide adequate &#8220;non public&#8221; closet space for cabin and flight crew to stow their luggage, or put in more passenger seats. Airlines have opted for the latter, leaving crew to answer the uncomfortable inquiries about their bags in the overhead bins. Should the required closts be installed, it would reduce revenue capacity per aircraft, and could increase fares.</p>
<p>4. Many airline union contracts tie legal rest to amount of time spent at place of lodging in addition to amount of time between block hours. Flight attendants who would have to wait to claim checked luggage could create inefficiencies in scheduling, raising costs, and subsequently, fares. I understand many international flight attendants check bags on a regular basis, but those layovers can often be several days, rather than just a few hours.</p>
<p>5. The &#8220;I paid money, therefore I&#8217;m entitled&#8221; argument is so typically American. It&#8217;s also false. It&#8217;s the same excuse used by drunks (I can drink as much as I want in First Class, I paid for it). US domestic flight attendants are often caught in between the needs of the entitled passengers who paid oftentimes loss-making fares, and the needs of the airlines who almost seem to blame the employees need for things like overhead bin space and crew meals and decent hotels when the airline isn&#8217;t profitable.</p>
<p>6. United dealt with this onboard Ted aircraft, where closets were removed and the inflight entertainment system took up the first few overhead bins, which are by the way, installed for passenger convenience. When it boils down to it, passengers are entitlted in most carriers&#8217; contract of carriage to transportation from point A to B, with a defined amount of luggage. The COC does not define where the passenger is entitlted to stow their luggage, and it does not guarantee availability of space in the aircraft cabin. Fact is, aside from the seat you sit in, which you have paid for transportation in, the airline retains ownership of the rest of the aircraft, including overhead bins, and if they want to transport crew bags or camelias or crepe paper, it&#8217;s their right to do so.</p>
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