Daytime flights it’s fine if their is a group off talkative friendly people, provided they’re not disturbing people by being loud or walking around a lot (if you’re up a lot someones getting bumped or has a butt in their face). But if you can hear them 3 rows away they’re probably too loud.

I work in Law Enforcement and find that with a loud group it often helps to be friendly with the group, then if you have to tell them to quiet down they don’t take it as the mean FA bugging them.

I would be really annoyed if I complained to the FA and they didn’t even try (and then hid in the front of the plane). I probably wouldn’t write a letter just for that and I’ve been known to write a couple letters in my day.

I’m glad that a quarrel between two misfit flight attendants launched my home city into the national spotlight. Oh well, beggars can’t be choosers I guess…

My second airline, was a legacy. Its such a different mentality. I had more ‘fun’ working for the regional next to the legacy. Everyone pitched in and did the job, and it got done. At mainline.. if you were C you did trash.. B did the galley and announcements and A did first. Case closed, period, the end. No one helped each other out. Now, I attribute that partly to the fact that most working at a legacy have been there for 15+ years and are set in their ways.. and cannot accept change. While thats not true of all of them, its true for a lot of them. We got to bid for positions, so you could work “B” for 10 years, if you can hold it.. and never have to pick up trash.

Now, I’m a “hybrid” and I love it. We all pitch in, and we all help each other out.

Thats my 2cents.

As far as the lead/aft situation, things are different in a smaller airline than at a major. I work for Comair, I have been told is a different ‘level’ than the one you mentioned, and bid lead simply because I find it too hot in the aft. The aft flight attendant though can come and go as she/he pleases as long as safety is done.

I was asked by a Delta flight attendant why I picked up trash as the lead and the aft flight attendant made an announcement before. Honestly, I don’t think that it really matters who picks up trash as long as it’s done and that some Mainline flight attendants are too stuck up for their own good.

What is your opinion?

But if your a drunken frat boy being ACTUALLY louder than the infamous crying baby during flight than you need to sit down and shut up.

On the note of ADQ’s and guest complaints… I find it truely sad to hear that you do all you can to avoid a write up. I find the secret is to document your ass before that drunk even has the time to get home and write an email. Those trusty CSAs at the top of the bridge can always be a key resource in identifying the bad boys of a flight.

If that doesnt work you can always shout down to the rampies and ask them to “delay” their bags.

Its like putting fuel and a lighter in the same room with a pyro completely aware of what could happen. Factor in that roughly 60-75% of people have to take something (often booze) in order to fly (in a tin can spiralling in the air at 30,000ft at 500km/hr). So CSA or FA meets intox and intox gets denied boarding.. the continuation is that now under Positive Bag Match the airline must remove the passenger’s bags from the plane, which usually requires a total offload of the plane. Remember that the airport also charges fines for an airline who remains at the gate past the scheduled departure.

Airlines should insist that the only location, once sterile, is aboard an aircraft where the airline can exercise their duty of care and witness/control how much alcohol you consume.

At the end of the day I think an unruly fuelled by alcohol is much more of a danger to FAs, passengers, and the aircraft that one terrorist with explosive testicles could ever be.

I know how badly behaved travelers can be and how quickly they can lash out at hard-working FAs. I hope my best behavior–and my chocolates–help a little.